October 13, 2023: Tristan Harris, James Kirchick, Matt Duss

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Guests: Tristan Harris - tech ethicist, co-founder and executive director of the nonprofit organization Center for Humane Technology, and podcast co-host; James Kirchick - columnist for Tablet Magazine, writer-at-large for Air Mail, and author; Matt Duss - executive vice president at the Center for International Policy and former foreign policy advisor to Sen. Bernie Sanders.